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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2004 10:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kaimi has noted a link over at T&amp;S to &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stcynic.com%2Fblog%2Farchives%2F2004%2F12%2Fmore_on_the_dec.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a blog&lt;/A&gt; that says that the teacher in question was using American history and misinformation associated with it (such as attributing Christian/Bible friendly quotes to the Framers) as a cover to proselytize for his brand of evangelical Christianity. If that is true, then I can say that I find the teacher&#039;s actions deplorable and find it justifiable that the school district demanded to approve of his curriculum before he went forward with it.

Also, if this is true, it speaks against the reliability of a Christian online news source (WorldNetDaily appears to be such) for getting to the facts of an event (I should have been wary of trusting a Christian source given the blatant misinformation that they often publish about Latter-day Saints). 

Anyway, if it is true that the school district is trying to excise any reference to God or religion from founding documents in a bizarre application of the doctrine of the separation of church and state, then it is in the wrong and is engaged in a frightful cultural revolution. But it is more realistic to believe that this Christian teacher was inappropriately using misquotes and misinformation regarding the history of the Founding Era to proselytize to the schoolkids. This is actually a relief, since I am well acquainted with Evangelical antics in distorting history to proselytize, and the suppression of that kind of thing is only proper in a public school.&#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Ffowlesview.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fnew-cultural-revolution-courtesy-of_27.html&quot; TITLE=&quot;john dot fowles at gmx dot net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;john fowles&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaimi has noted a link over at T&amp;S to <a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stcynic.com%2Fblog%2Farchives%2F2004%2F12%2Fmore_on_the_dec.php" rel="nofollow">a blog</a> that says that the teacher in question was using American history and misinformation associated with it (such as attributing Christian/Bible friendly quotes to the Framers) as a cover to proselytize for his brand of evangelical Christianity. If that is true, then I can say that I find the teacher&#8217;s actions deplorable and find it justifiable that the school district demanded to approve of his curriculum before he went forward with it.</p>
<p>Also, if this is true, it speaks against the reliability of a Christian online news source (WorldNetDaily appears to be such) for getting to the facts of an event (I should have been wary of trusting a Christian source given the blatant misinformation that they often publish about Latter-day Saints). </p>
<p>Anyway, if it is true that the school district is trying to excise any reference to God or religion from founding documents in a bizarre application of the doctrine of the separation of church and state, then it is in the wrong and is engaged in a frightful cultural revolution. But it is more realistic to believe that this Christian teacher was inappropriately using misquotes and misinformation regarding the history of the Founding Era to proselytize to the schoolkids. This is actually a relief, since I am well acquainted with Evangelical antics in distorting history to proselytize, and the suppression of that kind of thing is only proper in a public school.&#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Ffowlesview.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fnew-cultural-revolution-courtesy-of_27.html" TITLE="john dot fowles at gmx dot net" rel="nofollow">john fowles</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the update and the good news that this school district isn&#039;t as insane as it seemed from the initial news report about the lawsuit.&#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Ffowlesview.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fnew-cultural-revolution-courtesy-of_27.html%23c110238252787116039&quot; TITLE=&quot;john dot fowles at gmx dot net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;john fowles&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update and the good news that this school district isn&#8217;t as insane as it seemed from the initial news report about the lawsuit.&#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Ffowlesview.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fnew-cultural-revolution-courtesy-of_27.html%23c110238252787116039" TITLE="john dot fowles at gmx dot net" rel="nofollow">john fowles</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2004 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Declaration of Independence, sections of the United States Constitution, and other historical documents are re-printed in our textbooks, displayed in some of our school buildings, and taught in our social studies curriculum and lessons. There has been no ban of such documents or their underlying principles in the Cupertino Union School District.&quot;

That text was taken from a &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcupertino.ca.campusgrid.net%2Fhome%2FNewsRelease113004.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;press release&lt;/A&gt; (PDF format) from the Cupertino Union School District, the home of the &quot;Maoist&quot; insurgency referenced above (as much as the East Bay would play better into the desired storyline, Cupertino is in fact south of San Francisco, in radical leftist Silicon Valley).

Just thought I&#039;d inject a bit of fact (or at least contrary opinion) into a story that has otherwise spiralled out of control. Sure, had the story taken place as analyzed above (which is how I first heard it, myself), I too would be outraged. But it seems that at best we really don&#039;t know what&#039;s going on in this case, and we should probably wait to see what all the facts are (which likely won&#039;t happen until the lawsuit is over).

I have no doubt that many in this country would love to remove God completely from it. But I think that if this will be accomplished, it will not be with shocking, sweeping changes from on high in our system of government, but rather from quiet, gradual acquiescence on the part of our nation&#039;s citizens. It&#039;s how sin works best.

For what it&#039;s worth, by the way, I&#039;ve never understood the desire on the part of so many Christians to engage every bit as much in historical revisionism as the aformentioned administrators are accused of by way of pretending that most of America&#039;s founding fathers and a good deal of its presidents were all Christians in the modern sense of the word. Can anybody read a decent amount about Thomas Jefferson and conclude that he would ever step foot into a modern Christian church? I mean, really?&#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cockahoop.com&quot; TITLE=&quot;stadler at aracnet dot com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tODD&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Declaration of Independence, sections of the United States Constitution, and other historical documents are re-printed in our textbooks, displayed in some of our school buildings, and taught in our social studies curriculum and lessons. There has been no ban of such documents or their underlying principles in the Cupertino Union School District.&#8221;</p>
<p>That text was taken from a <a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcupertino.ca.campusgrid.net%2Fhome%2FNewsRelease113004.pdf" rel="nofollow">press release</a> (PDF format) from the Cupertino Union School District, the home of the &#8220;Maoist&#8221; insurgency referenced above (as much as the East Bay would play better into the desired storyline, Cupertino is in fact south of San Francisco, in radical leftist Silicon Valley).</p>
<p>Just thought I&#8217;d inject a bit of fact (or at least contrary opinion) into a story that has otherwise spiralled out of control. Sure, had the story taken place as analyzed above (which is how I first heard it, myself), I too would be outraged. But it seems that at best we really don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going on in this case, and we should probably wait to see what all the facts are (which likely won&#8217;t happen until the lawsuit is over).</p>
<p>I have no doubt that many in this country would love to remove God completely from it. But I think that if this will be accomplished, it will not be with shocking, sweeping changes from on high in our system of government, but rather from quiet, gradual acquiescence on the part of our nation&#8217;s citizens. It&#8217;s how sin works best.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, by the way, I&#8217;ve never understood the desire on the part of so many Christians to engage every bit as much in historical revisionism as the aformentioned administrators are accused of by way of pretending that most of America&#8217;s founding fathers and a good deal of its presidents were all Christians in the modern sense of the word. Can anybody read a decent amount about Thomas Jefferson and conclude that he would ever step foot into a modern Christian church? I mean, really?&#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cockahoop.com" TITLE="stadler at aracnet dot com" rel="nofollow">tODD</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the new template mr. fowles.  Looks good!  :)&#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wump.info%2Fwumpblog&quot; TITLE=&quot;dhb at wump dot info&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;danithew&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the new template mr. fowles.  Looks good!  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wump.info%2Fwumpblog" TITLE="dhb at wump dot info" rel="nofollow">danithew</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I combined Ronan&#039;s United Brethren template with the elements I liked from the old Blogger Rounders template. &#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Ffowlesview.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fnew-cultural-revolution-courtesy-of_27.html%23comments&quot; TITLE=&quot;john dot fowles at gmx dot net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;john fowles&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I combined Ronan&#8217;s United Brethren template with the elements I liked from the old Blogger Rounders template. &#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Ffowlesview.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fnew-cultural-revolution-courtesy-of_27.html%23comments" TITLE="john dot fowles at gmx dot net" rel="nofollow">john fowles</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2004 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, school administrators manage to read the First Amendment as a directive to censor our founding documents and rewrite history.  And we let these people teach our kids?  Something is wrong here.

As to the People&#039;s Republic theme, that crosses my mind every time I drive past the colorful and official-looking &quot;Nuclear Free Zone&quot; signs as I drive into Berkeley.  It&#039;s not just nukes they&#039;re missing.

Hey--new template?  Seems like you&#039;ve upgraded since my last visit.&#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fmormoninquiry.typepad.com&quot; TITLE=&quot;dmiwlog at yahoo dot com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dave&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, school administrators manage to read the First Amendment as a directive to censor our founding documents and rewrite history.  And we let these people teach our kids?  Something is wrong here.</p>
<p>As to the People&#8217;s Republic theme, that crosses my mind every time I drive past the colorful and official-looking &#8220;Nuclear Free Zone&#8221; signs as I drive into Berkeley.  It&#8217;s not just nukes they&#8217;re missing.</p>
<p>Hey&#8211;new template?  Seems like you&#8217;ve upgraded since my last visit.&#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fmormoninquiry.typepad.com" TITLE="dmiwlog at yahoo dot com" rel="nofollow">Dave</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[test&#160;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>test&#160;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[test&#160;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>test&#160;</p>
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