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	<title>Comments on: Settling the Hot American West</title>
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		<title>By: BrianJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 00:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have often wondered a similar question: What did the pioneers think when they first saw Goblin Valley? Arches? Mount Timpanogos? Surely most of them had never seen anything like this!

Your post is very interesting. I would contend with one little word choice: &quot;arid wastelands.&quot; Deseret was indeed arid, but hardly a &quot;wasteland.&quot; According to my botany professor in college, when the pioneers first settled Salt Lake Valley, the native grasses grew so high that people regularly lost livestock.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often wondered a similar question: What did the pioneers think when they first saw Goblin Valley? Arches? Mount Timpanogos? Surely most of them had never seen anything like this!</p>
<p>Your post is very interesting. I would contend with one little word choice: &#8220;arid wastelands.&#8221; Deseret was indeed arid, but hardly a &#8220;wasteland.&#8221; According to my botany professor in college, when the pioneers first settled Salt Lake Valley, the native grasses grew so high that people regularly lost livestock.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen M (Ethesis)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great perspectives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great perspectives.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mansfield</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;One can only wonder at how history would have been different if the Latter-day Saints had been able to hold the boundaries of their State of Deseret, complete with its access to the sea, but that is a different matter.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I doubt different political boundaries would have changed much.  Utah Territory wasn&#039;t all Mormon, and Mormon towns were established in the surrounding territories all the same without benefit of the State of Deseret.  The early abandoned places like Las Vegas and the Muddy River would have been no more sustainable at that time had they been under the jurisdiction of Deseret.  The reach of the Saints in the Great Basin was constrained by their numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;One can only wonder at how history would have been different if the Latter-day Saints had been able to hold the boundaries of their State of Deseret, complete with its access to the sea, but that is a different matter.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I doubt different political boundaries would have changed much.  Utah Territory wasn&#8217;t all Mormon, and Mormon towns were established in the surrounding territories all the same without benefit of the State of Deseret.  The early abandoned places like Las Vegas and the Muddy River would have been no more sustainable at that time had they been under the jurisdiction of Deseret.  The reach of the Saints in the Great Basin was constrained by their numbers.</p>
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