Comments on: “Bind the Lord” http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/ An overly eclectic, likely inconsequent[ial], and blatantly fo[w]l blog on life, family, literature, law, and religion. Fri, 03 May 2013 17:11:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: gilgamesh http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7746 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:18:28 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7746 In addition, I feel the D&C scripture is limited to certain covenants the Lord has already created. We cannot create our own rules and then tell the Lord he has to comply.

]]> By: gilgamesh http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7745 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:12:31 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7745 They treid this in my mission too. It failed miserably. All that happened was very hard working Elder’s ended up feeling like unworthy failures. What is never taken into account is the agency of the populace to not listen.

]]> By: Jordan F. http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7735 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:38:47 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7735 Thanks for that perspective, Jeremy. Hopefully the missionaries took the counsel well.

]]> By: Jeremy http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7734 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:30:22 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7734 Once some missionaries started using the phrase “Bind the Lord” in my mission, as a motivational phrase for encouraging obedience.

It rubbed me the wrong way, so I was glad when the mission president spoke out stridently against it in a meeting; he felt it sounded quite presumptuous and even a little impertinent. We don’ go around binding the Lord.

I think part of the reason it bugged me is it’s not quite square with the scripture: it says “I the Lord am bound when ye do what I say,” NOT “Ye bind me when ye do what I say.”

]]> By: Latter-day Guy http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7726 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:21:35 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7726 There was a spate of secret baptisms in my mission (that is, elders baptized investigators whom the bishop of the ward had counseled them not to; they were not remotely prepared. The elders just went ahead and filled the font when nobody was there and did the baptism with a couple other elders acting as witnesses. Bad business, that.) I suppose they were taking it upon themselves to “seek deep to hide their [baptisms] from the [ward].”

]]> By: Jordan F. http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7725 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:17:04 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7725 Once I devised this calculation based on the ratio that 1 year on Kolob = 1,000 years on Earth found in the Book of Abraham to figure out how long we had on our missions. I presented this in Zone Conference as a sort of “motivational tool.” Looking back on it now, I chuckle at the idea as kind of zany… lol.

]]> By: Jordan F. http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7724 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:14:31 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7724 Oh, I am, McQuinn. Mostly I just think it is a funny choice of words. Now that I have looked into it a little more, I’m actually kind of ambivalent. The real purpose of this post is to ask what other funny things missionaries have done (and now I see that this figure of speech actually has grounding in doctrine).

]]> By: mcquinn http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7723 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:11:48 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7723 It’s a figure of speech. Get over it.

]]> By: cantinflas http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7722 Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:29:32 +0000 http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/bind-the-lord/#comment-7722 I think the argument could be made that even when a GA uses it, the language is misunderstood. The D&C passage, to me, means that when we do what he says, the Lord is bound by the laws of obedience. The laws that he himself [presumably] set up. This means that we simply take advantage of the laws that are already in place, not that we somehow enforce the laws. The Lord is not bound by us, but is bound by his promise.

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