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		<title>Comment on Mouths of Babes &#8212; Does Can Mean Should? by acfowles</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 17:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my experience, I don&#039;t feel that age 19 was presented as a mandate. Social/cultural norm, perhaps, but not an absolute. 

It is my understanding that many wards grapple with the difficulty of the young men, in particular, fully intending to serve a mission while in high school but then enjoying a year of college or other pursuits and thereby (so the logic goes) becoming distracted from serving a mission. Shifting the age to 18 may be a way to help the young men &quot;keep on track.&quot; Now, we can debate whether their effectiveness at this lower age and maturity level will be as great for the missionary work as otherwise. In some instances it will most certainly decrease efficiency. But I wonder whether the net result, at least in the life of the young man and his later sphere of influence, will still be positive. 

As far as your example regarding the young men who chose to serve at age 22 or such, it does not surprise me that they were held in such high esteem. But I wonder whether that is simply a question of maturity level generally, or rather a reflection of the fact that these young men, having so much time to consider and weigh other options, still chose to serve a mission. And, most likely, farther removed from the influence/pressure of parent and family. I think their spiritual maturity in still choosing to serve was a very strong factor in their missionary service.  That does not answer the question, though, regarding the young man who waits a year and chooses to not serve a mission at all.

I also wonder whether that is what is going on in the bishopric&#039;s minds in those situations you mention where it sounds like they are now advocating 18 as a hard and fast rule. Perhaps we are only hearing part of that conversation – in council they are weighing/discerning the spiritual needs of the young men in the ward, but in public it only comes out as a hard-and-fast &quot;get them out at 18.&quot; No clue whether that is true, but it wouldn’t surprise me. 

Besides, Are you assuming that there is a default at all?  From my reading of the announcement, it could be simply interpreted as &quot;let&#039;s start considering a mission when a young man is 18, but if he doesn&#039;t want to go yet or priesthood leaders determine he is not ready, then a later age is still wholly appropriate and sometimes the better option.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, I don&#8217;t feel that age 19 was presented as a mandate. Social/cultural norm, perhaps, but not an absolute. </p>
<p>It is my understanding that many wards grapple with the difficulty of the young men, in particular, fully intending to serve a mission while in high school but then enjoying a year of college or other pursuits and thereby (so the logic goes) becoming distracted from serving a mission. Shifting the age to 18 may be a way to help the young men &#8220;keep on track.&#8221; Now, we can debate whether their effectiveness at this lower age and maturity level will be as great for the missionary work as otherwise. In some instances it will most certainly decrease efficiency. But I wonder whether the net result, at least in the life of the young man and his later sphere of influence, will still be positive. </p>
<p>As far as your example regarding the young men who chose to serve at age 22 or such, it does not surprise me that they were held in such high esteem. But I wonder whether that is simply a question of maturity level generally, or rather a reflection of the fact that these young men, having so much time to consider and weigh other options, still chose to serve a mission. And, most likely, farther removed from the influence/pressure of parent and family. I think their spiritual maturity in still choosing to serve was a very strong factor in their missionary service.  That does not answer the question, though, regarding the young man who waits a year and chooses to not serve a mission at all.</p>
<p>I also wonder whether that is what is going on in the bishopric&#8217;s minds in those situations you mention where it sounds like they are now advocating 18 as a hard and fast rule. Perhaps we are only hearing part of that conversation – in council they are weighing/discerning the spiritual needs of the young men in the ward, but in public it only comes out as a hard-and-fast &#8220;get them out at 18.&#8221; No clue whether that is true, but it wouldn’t surprise me. </p>
<p>Besides, Are you assuming that there is a default at all?  From my reading of the announcement, it could be simply interpreted as &#8220;let&#8217;s start considering a mission when a young man is 18, but if he doesn&#8217;t want to go yet or priesthood leaders determine he is not ready, then a later age is still wholly appropriate and sometimes the better option.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Dead V: Memorial Day at St. Paul&#8217;s Cathedral by Glen B.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glen B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 01:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glenn was the Uncle I never met but he was a big reason why I decided o make the Air Force a 26-year career.  I attended the reunion last August in San Diego of his 379th Bombardment Group based at RAF Kimbolton.  Sadly, there are only about 20 or so original members and most of the reunion group was mae up of children.  But I enjoyed chatting with some of the original members about their combat experiences.  They are truly the Greatest Generation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn was the Uncle I never met but he was a big reason why I decided o make the Air Force a 26-year career.  I attended the reunion last August in San Diego of his 379th Bombardment Group based at RAF Kimbolton.  Sadly, there are only about 20 or so original members and most of the reunion group was mae up of children.  But I enjoyed chatting with some of the original members about their combat experiences.  They are truly the Greatest Generation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on To Catch a Predator in Murphy, Texas- Update by Nick</title>
		<link>http://abev.wordpress.com/2006/12/15/to-catch-a-predator-in-murphy-texas-update/#comment-10434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Teresa: She never attempted to defend what her husband did, she simply stated that it would be appreciated if the program also focused on the impact that the perp&#039;s actions had on his family. You&#039;re one of those who apparently can&#039;t understand or comprehend anything unless it happens to you personally. Imagine finding out one day that the person you are married to, live with and share your life with is suddenly found to be living a sort of secrect life you never knew about and ended up in some situation like this. Imagine how that would impact you and your life. She too is a victim of his actions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa: She never attempted to defend what her husband did, she simply stated that it would be appreciated if the program also focused on the impact that the perp&#8217;s actions had on his family. You&#8217;re one of those who apparently can&#8217;t understand or comprehend anything unless it happens to you personally. Imagine finding out one day that the person you are married to, live with and share your life with is suddenly found to be living a sort of secrect life you never knew about and ended up in some situation like this. Imagine how that would impact you and your life. She too is a victim of his actions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Remembrance Sunday by pamela peterson</title>
		<link>http://abev.wordpress.com/2010/11/15/our-remembrance-sunday/#comment-10432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pamela peterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t we do something similiar here in the US on such days?  It would be nice to vary the &quot;sameness&quot; of our sacrament meetings.  I was touched by the description.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t we do something similiar here in the US on such days?  It would be nice to vary the &#8220;sameness&#8221; of our sacrament meetings.  I was touched by the description.</p>
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		<title>Comment on O Tannenbaum! by Christmas Feast &#124; Junior Ganymede</title>
		<link>http://abev.wordpress.com/2006/12/14/o-tannenbaum-3/#comment-10404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christmas Feast &#124; Junior Ganymede]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Condescension of God! and O Tannenbaum (the Fowles [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Behold the Condescension of God! by Christmas Feast &#124; Junior Ganymede</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christmas Feast &#124; Junior Ganymede]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Behold the Condescension of God! and O Tannenbaum (the Fowles Brothers) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Behold the Condescension of God! and O Tannenbaum (the Fowles Brothers) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on O Tannenbaum! by Merry Christmas &#124; Junior Ganymede</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Merry Christmas &#124; Junior Ganymede]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the Condescension of God! and O Tannenbaum (the Fowles [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Condescension of God! and O Tannenbaum (the Fowles [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hübener at Dixie State College by Christopher Ecclestone</title>
		<link>http://abev.wordpress.com/2005/03/14/hubner-at-dixie-state-college/#comment-10398</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christopher Ecclestone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 19:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bit of skating there around the role of the Branch President, Arthur Zander, protecting his congregation.. he was actually a Party Member and did not need to be,, in modern parlance, Helmuth was hung out to dry. Did he need to be excommunicated? Did the Gestapo come around in the dead of night asking for this final insult? Hmmmmm..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit of skating there around the role of the Branch President, Arthur Zander, protecting his congregation.. he was actually a Party Member and did not need to be,, in modern parlance, Helmuth was hung out to dry. Did he need to be excommunicated? Did the Gestapo come around in the dead of night asking for this final insult? Hmmmmm..</p>
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		<title>Comment on RE: Long-Lost Musty Metaphors of Yesteryear by Max Hopper</title>
		<link>http://abev.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/long-lost-musty-metaphors-of-yesteryear/#comment-10345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Hopper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Wassen neus&#039; is in current and of common use in the Dutch language and it carries the same meaning as in English.
N.B. its origin is unknown, sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Wassen neus&#8217; is in current and of common use in the Dutch language and it carries the same meaning as in English.<br />
N.B. its origin is unknown, sorry.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Mormon Sermon for Reformation Sunday by leah</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[leah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 02:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very beautiful and so true; thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very beautiful and so true; thanks!</p>
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